Under US law that is porn and not prostitution. Because some one filmed it!

Right, but we do need more cows in the long run.

What was the job?

Sure, but I think there is only a very small number of people that are in this business for that reason. Most of them just want to get their job done.

I think I know where you’re going with this … mh. Depends of what kind of pleasure. If it’s sexual, that would be bestiality, I guess.

No, but I’ve seen some video evidence …

Animals are, similar to children, students etc, fundamentally incapable of giving consent

Well … I agree with most of your points. But animals are not humans, so consent works fundamentally different. Domestic animals are owned, so humans act as the legal guardian. Yes, there should be regulation regarding general animal welfare.

But I don’t think artificial insemination of livestock falls into the category of bestiality. It’s a fun meme and shitpost, though.

If people lived next door to just these non-industrialized private farm, then they would eventually become Vegan.

Heh, I’ve seen this said sooooo many times, but I feel like the opposite is true. I grew up in a small village, a few hundred people. We didn’t have a farm ourselves but many of my friends did, so I hung out around them a lot.

I don’t claim to know everything about the conditions because of that, but I did see someone put their arm inside a cow and horse and my grandma once showed me how to slaughter a rabbit (we ate it later), so it’s not like I was sheltered from the more graphic aspects.

Yet, when I look back at the people in my life (and I’m quite old and moved around a lot), all the vegans I know are city people. I’m really not aware of any vegans from my home area, which is much more rural. Being around animals in a farm setting doesn’t seem to make people vegan, it desensitises them, at least in my experience.

For context: I’m talking about a rural area in southern Germany, I’m can’t really say how things are in other regions.

Yeah, I don’t know anything about rodeo, sounds fucked up. But I’ve never witness any horse or cow beaten down at any of the local farms around the area where I grew up.

You are the expert on cows expressions & emotions?

Nope, that’s why I’m sure as hell not getting behind a cow or horse and putting my hand up any hole. But apparently the people that do that know their emotions well enough to know they aren’t about to get a hoof to the forehead, so these experts do exist.

Ok, but what does this have to do with the law & order comment? Because inseminating a cow isn’t sexual assault or rape and I’ve never implied that the cows feel pleasure from it.

Just that the cows don’t really seem to mind it. So I’d question that it even should be considered animal abuse.

I mean, it really helps that it’s also basically just a 50/50 chance.

It wouldn’t. That’s why have to ask politicians to make laws that forces Facebook to do it anyway.

Everything born-living has Rights

Well, we just have to agree to disagree. I think nothing had any rights before humans invented the concept. And even now, any right that can’t or isn’t being enforced is pretty much useless and not more valuable than a wish.

By the way, the powerful thing, outside of universal forces are all our minds & together they even more powerful.

Well, considering that humanity would be totally helpless against universal forces, like a super volcano or a gamma ray burst, it suggests that all our minds are pretty weak in the over-all schema of things.

WTF are you even talking about? I’ve haven’t said or implied anything of the like.

Others Beings have rights

Only if we say so. We invented the entire “rights” thing in the first place and we’re kind of in charge of handing them out.

If you believe in god(s)

Nope, just plain old non-existence after death for me.

There is a lot of horrible things in animal agriculture, this one isn’t really one of them. I’ve seen the process with my own eyes … the cows don’t care, they barley notice. I feel more for the people who have to do that professionally.

Unless that women is a literal cow, yes.

non-human animals … I didn’t think it needed spelling out.

With humans yes, but in the case of non-human animals these decisions are up to the owner.

edit: clarification for the ultra-dense.