orc_princess
30s, ML, pagan
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We deal with a lot of people telling us all sorts of bs and speaking over us when we talk about historical facts that we actually researched, or even our own lived experiences for those of us who live through invasions, coups and so on.
We see the genocides going on right now, and when we sit down to learn more we find out that there have been endless such cases perpetuated by the same capitalist class for capitalist interests, we learn about the torture, the humiliation, the meticulous extermination of whole peoples with their languages and cultures gone forever, just because their labor or their land has value that capitalists wanted to extract and plunder. I’m too young to have lost someone personally, but when my parents were children we had a US backed dictatorship that disappeared children like them, alongside leftists, liberals, indigenous people… The US taught our military torture methods and bribed them to keep going, and when they were finally gone we inherited a fucking DEBT that we literally can’t repay you, and because we can’t repay you we need to keep getting loans from your country, with strings attached, like more austerity, as our people die homeless and cold. And if we succeed to get a proper socialist government while playing by the rules that your government imposes, they’ll just coup us, like they did to Salvador Allende. Surely you see why we’re angry now. It’s not personal. If you don’t wanna talk to us, you can opt out, it’s whatever to us.
Do you know how many enlightenment figures were wildly racist, how many of them profited from slavery while pretending to stand for freedom? Scientific racism is a direct evolution from this.
As for whether liberalism now would lead to more of the same, of course it would, it has no built-in method for people to not be exploited, to discourage greed, to stop genocide, etc. How would you suggest we prevent any and all of this within liberalism?
Yeah I mispelled, I meant “and they aren’t aware”, not “am not aware”
Respectfully, your position doesn’t make sense. Liberalism brought us here. Liberalism was built on top of the slave trade, of colonialism, of plunder. This system produces people like Epstein and Trump.
Maybe they like deeply traumatizing people, aren’t aware of many animals being capable of trauma
I think it’s not too much to expect to know basic terminology in a leftist space. In Argentina I’ve met plenty of social democrats who understand imperialism in its leftist sense, because being in the periphery means you see the consequences of imperialism, and this is a country where like 99% of the media is owned by the comprador class or international capital making propaganda for austerity, meritocracy and other bullshit.
If somebody doesn’t understand why their definition of imperialism doesn’t seem to be the one we use, maybe they can ask questions rather than interpret us in bad faith and so on.
By that logic, nearly every existing state would be “imperialist” forever and the term would be rendered useless for meaningful analysis.
Might need to reread that
See, if the government of a country want to genocide part of the population and that government is my husbando Zelensky, that me and western media mysteriously agree on being the most wholesome democratic leader ever, that’s democracy in action 😍😍😍 and don’t forget international law applies when evil Russia invades smol bean Ukraine, but if China even ATTEMPTS to breathe near Taiwan, international law is just a technicality anyway, we need to go in and fight evil authoritarian China! I’m very smart, you silly campists!
Then you might not be very knowledgeable on the topic, lol
3·2 days agoschmeing Mr. John Bitcoin
Lmao that’s priceless. Sorry you gotta deal with this system. Medical care should always be free and accessible.
Btw Ben Norton uploaded a recap on the sanctions, which includes clips of the US admitting responsibility for the economic crash and the broader context of sanctions as economic warfare against Iranians.
Right. Not wishing death to you personally or your community or etc etc. But your country has no right to exist in its current form, and people projecting their extremely valid grievances on all of you will continue to be a problem until you all organize and change or replace the government. We constantly meet people from your country defending our nations being butchered in the name of democracy™, most people still defend the army and veterans, we have the right to be really angry, and not all of us have the patience to treat you all with silk gloves.
Thank you for expressing that so eloquently
Not the Chinese leadership, or the DPRK’s, or Iran. Their point is that compradors that are aligned with western capital seemed awfully eager to be doing cruel shit with Epstein and other elites, while those opposed to them and seeking sovereignty weren’t.
I believe we, the worker class, have every right to oppress the owning class for their innumerable crimes against all of humanity and our environment
Do you have a source for that? If you’re right I’d like to inform myself better.
That aside, I responded to a low effort accusation that corresponds to western chauvinism. I don’t always like spending disproportionate effort responding to that kinda shit.