Heart disease, cancer, etc are part of the plan. Both boring and too close to home. Terrorism and homicide are suitably scary, morally charged, and far enough removed from most people’s lives to be mostly abstract fears.
Sorry in advance for the political topic, but it’s directly related to the info in the OP.
Is the bar for causes of death roughly similar across social classes? As in: are rich/poor people more/less likely to die from certain causes than others? I’m asking because I’m wondering if news coverage isn’t a bit closer to “reasons why rich people die” than to “reasons why your typical person dies” there (in USA). Just a hypothesis, mind you.
Not an american but i would think that not many rich people actually get murdered, unfortunately. Private security and someone wealthy is generally more valuable alive than dead if you are looking for ransom or such.
That reminds me, there’s this anti-capitalist, anti-war children’s film by Satyajit Ray called Goopy Gyne Bagha Byne. In it, there’s a song that says that the king is sad and afraid since he has so much money. He tries to cope by punishing others, but it never makes him happy. The only solution offered was to let go of all his riches, and that finally made him happy.
It was for children, so I understand why sadness was used instead of fear. But they do need to be afraid.
As an aside, I think that movie had a decent impact in the communist revolution that happened in my state in the 70-80s. Ray has made some of the greatest movies in the history of cinema, but his children’s films still hold a dear place in the hearts of many generations of Bengalis.
On the left: shit happens
On the right: humans are doing stupid shit
I think the OP is trying to express that the New York times is distorting the news. Perhaps true, but humans doing stupid shit will always sell a newspaper.
Yeah, I also don’t think writing an article every time someone dies from cancer or a heart attack would benefit anyone.
I feel like hearing more kids dying with ass cancer stories and heart disease deaths and people dying from preventable diseases stories would probably shift people away from focusing just on guns and homicide and maybe actually cause people to care about science and solving those other things.
Not that those are good to not focus on, just that there’s already an ongoing anti vs pro gun conversation going and at least if we talk about something else that’s proportional causing deaths… well, I doubt there are many “pro-cancer” people out there (but I know it’s non-zero).
I guess I just want some positive momentum on something at this point.
Its really bothering me that 2.1% was listed above 2.2% at the suicide covid bars.
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Dog bites man is not news. Man bites dog is news.
Isn’t this normal for news? The whole dog bites man, man bites dog thing?
I have a really hard time with drug overdose being it’s own thing. That sounds a lot like ignoring the large number of intentional overdoses that happen.
Fucking great visual.
Would be interesting to see it in a stacked bar graph with actual va. represented side by side to give scale to the disproportionism.
It’d be neat to see some other news outlets as well. I’m sure there’s a massive difference.
I doubt it.
NGL… let’s be real here.
Your average New York Joe Blowhole who’s 67, obese, diabetic and smoked since he was 15 isn’t going to be as newsworthy a story as a murder is, the day he drops dead of a heart attack in his living room.
Outside of the obit a family member puts in the paper, why would the newspapers report on such an everyday death?
Natural causes of death, are ho-hum.
The newspapers report on the things that aren’t the run-of-the-mill, occurrences.
True, but/and let’s consider something like a more conservative outlet (relative to NYT) in 2023. Who’s president? What issues are getting talked up pre-election? I’m guessing we’ll see something like drugs and homicide taking a massive chunk of the news relative to what the NYT reported. Even regional news will differ — ever turn on the daytime news in Las Vegas? It’s all car chases and interviews with shooting witnesses. You’d think nothing else happened in the world. Just an interesting experiment.
Oh Yeah, to that, definitely. I always get a chuckle out of the Fox TV stations across the country that will have local horror stories… Sometimes absolutely lurid in detail.
The reporting vogue seems to be Families Gone Bad in the Upper Midwest…
Why is COVID (2.2%) below Suicide (2.1%) on the graph on the left? Everything else is in decending order of occurance
What about shootings? I don’t believe that shootings doesn’t make this chart for a second.
Homicides, surely.
I’ve had various family members die from all of the most common things in the top 2/3 of the causes of death. It sucks. But I wouldn’t want there to be a story about it in the NY Times about it… because why would they do that?
They’re journalists not doctors, treating heart disease and cancer isn’t their jobs and it’s not all that interesting to write about.
If they reported on heart disease as much as terrorism and homicide you might have things like properly funded healthcare and high quality food regulations, instead you get militarised police.
What the public perceives as a danger is more important than what flashy thing sells.
Having family members die of these things doesn’t make people aware heart disease exist? It’s only if it’s reported in the New York Times reports on it that makes people aware of things?
And no it’s not all that flashy when my grandfather dies of a heart attack at the age of 87. That’s part of your stats on the common causes of death, right? It’s sad for those that knew him, but do you expect a story about an octogenarian dying of a heart attack to make the front page of the NY Times? What would that accomplish more than an obituary stating people should give to a charity in lieu of flowers? Maybe with some more funding to medical research my grandfather could’ve lived to 88 or 89! But the damn NY Times decided it was more important to report on someone dying in the prime of their life instead of elderly people dying. Those insensitive bastards!
