Well, you’re clearly very passionate about nix, but all you’ve shown is how to install git in an isolated shell, which again isn’t what I was asking.
I don’t have anything against nix, but it doesn’t seem like the right solution to the particular problem that was presented.
I guess you misunderstood my question, because that won’t work. nix-shell -p git doesn’t provide an isolated operating system. They only isolate programs and libraries. If your native git installation modified something in your home folder, those changes will still be visible inside a nix shell.
I’m not sure what you’re trying to accomplish in those other commands, as they just seem to print out git’s dependencies?
Also, I see you’re actively editing your comment as I’m typing so sorry if you actually post the answer after I hit Reply.
The solution to the problem is to install git into a clean system so you can observe what changes it makes.
How would you do this with Nix?
Completely off topic, but
Unfortunately, I didn’t check that before monkeying with things, so I have no idea if I’ve changed my system accidentally.
Reading this makes me feel so powerful to be as familiar as I am with podman/docker (which to be clear is a modest amount). Just do:
podman run --rm -it debian:latest bash
Then apt install git, check those folders, and finally exit so the entire container gets automatically deleted.
The whole thing is done in a few seconds (or more depending on how long git takes to download and whether the debian image is already cached)
Everyone on Linux should have this in their toolbelt.
I had a realization recently. All the pro-AI people pushing vibe coding or “coding assistants” are completely missing the point.
These tools aren’t helping you write code, you are helping the tool write code, because it can’t do it on its own yet. The more they improve, the less you’re needed.
Idk if they’ll ever reach the point where you can actually give it a prompt, and it’ll provide a fully functional implementation on its own with no human intervention required. If it does, I can’t imagine that tech would be as available as it is now. Your peasant ass isn’t going to be vibing the next big thing that’s for sure.
The modern game industry was being run by pedophile billionaires, two of the worst adjectives you can apply to a human being. I’d say that’s more of a factor than not having enough “creative constraints”
Q and Picard are the real Ying Yang Twins
Wikipedia says her dad is Mike Gabbard. Are you saying Mike Gabbard is actually Chris Butler, or that Mike Gabbard is a cuck?
Either way this is the first time I’ve heard about this lmao. What a fucking joke we are as a country.
I have been unfairly biased against fish ever since Phil Fish became public enemy #1 many years ago. I don’t even remember what the controversy was about, but fuck him and the unix shell he has absolutely nothing to do with.
Look into “Oh My Zsh” or similar plugin managers. OMZ is bloated as fuuuck and you’ll probably want to replace it with your own custom configs at some point, but it’s the easiest way to see what a decked out zsh feels like. It’s a good starting point for sure.
Personally I’m down to just 4 plugins with minor config tweaks on top of a bare zsh install. I’ve read good things about Starship but I’m happy with my current setup.
Thank fuck I switched to Zsh
The study is about the impact AI use has on learning. Their experiment seems to test just that, unlike what you’re describing.
The title is literally “How AI assistance impacts the formation of coding skills”. Memorizing APIs isn’t what most people would consiser a “coding skill”.
Debugging, systems design, optimization, research and evaluation, etc are what actually make someone a useful engineer, and are the skills a person develops as they go from junior to senior. Even domain knowledge (like knowing a lot about farming if you’re working on farming software) is more useful than memorizing the API of any framework. The only thing memorization does is it saves you a few minutes from having to read some docs, but that’s minimal impact, and it’s something you pick up normally throughout the course of working on a project anyways. When you finish that project, you might never use that API again, or if you do it might have changed completely when a new version is released.
remembering what you did an hour ago seems like a real world problem to me.
Sure, humans have shitty memory, but that has nothing to do with AI code assistance. There are plenty of non-AI coding assistants that help people with this (like Intellisense/LSP auto complete, which has been around for decades)
I think the more interesting experiment to watch is what happens when someone gets so throroughly lost in the sauce of vibe coding like this guy. Hopefully he had a psyche evaluation or MRI before this so science can learn from him.
In a randomized controlled trial, we examined 1) how quickly software developers picked up a new skill (in this case, a Python library) with and without AI assistance; and 2) whether using AI made them less likely to understand the code they’d just written.
We found that using AI assistance led to a statistically significant decrease in mastery. On a quiz that covered concepts they’d used just a few minutes before, participants in the AI group scored 17% lower than those who coded by hand, or the equivalent of nearly two letter grades. Using AI sped up the task slightly, but this didn’t reach the threshold of statistical significance.
Who designed this study? I assume it wasn’t a software engineer, because this doesn’t reflect real world “coding skills”. This is just a programming-flavored memory test. Obviously, the people who coded by hand remembered more about the library in the same way students who take notes by hand as opposed to typing tend to remember more.
A proper study would need to evaluate critical thinking and problem solving skills using real world software engineering tasks. Maybe find some already-solved, but obscure bug in an open source project and have them try to solve it in a controlled environment (so they don’t just find the existing solution already).
It’s literally just a tool for large companies to stifle competition.
This is obviously wrong, but reveals the direction a conversation with you would take. No thanks.
Have a nice day.
I wasn’t really trying to give my opinion, but since you asked…
I think copyright laws are a good thing for everyone. They’re definitely not perfect, but they do much more good than harm. The problem (which is not unique to copyright) is that the legal system treats large corporations differently than individuals and small businesses. The recent AI hype wave has supercharged this problem, but it’s not new.
there is actually something inherently wrong with reusing code?
Depends on what you mean. Open source software usually comes with a license attached, which is effectively a permission slip from its creator telling you what you can or can’t do with it. Without that pernission, you’d be violating their rights under copyright laws unless you limit yourself to what counts as “fair use”. That’s perfectly fine, and I don’t see why anyone reasonable would take issue with that.
I know there are some fringe people out there who think copyright law shouldn’t exist at all, and that no individual deserves the right to exclusively profit off of their creative works. I don’t agree with that, and I don’t see how open source would work in that scenario as nobody would want to release anything. It’d make exploitation of the poor by the wealthy even more extreme, as those with the means to mass produce derivative products (eg you own a factory that can produce paintings or whatever) would be the only ones making a living off intellectual properties.
But this is getting way off topic. I just wanted to call that guy stupid.
This is a dumb take. You didn’t understand the assignment.
“From scratch” in software engineering usually means it was written without a starting point, being based off an existing implementation. It doesn’t mean it was written by someone who indepdently discovered computer science and software engineering on their own.
You’re trying to regurgitate a pro-AI argument you read somewhere that defends OpenAI and others’ use of open source software to train their commercial models without paying, following open source licensing requirements, or even providing acknowledgement of their source (typically called “copyright infringement” or “plagiarism” when-non-billionaires do it). The argument you are plagiarising here tries to conflate human learning with AI training, which is as stupid as me saying that downloading movies for free is legal because I’m “training” my brain on that content.
If you like AI slop, that’s cool. Idgaf. But if you’re going to wade into the controversies and politics though, maybe think a little harder before making a fool of yourself? The people you’re trying to argue with likely haven’t had their brain and critical thinking skills turned to mush by using LLMs as much as you have.
Awesome, this is exactly what I was looking for, thanks!
I don’t get it, are knives illegal in Italy? What if I want to cut my spaghetti?
This is why nix is doomed to be a toy forever, because its user base consists of unhinged cheerleaders. Please do the following:
Now, re-read the linked blog post and my comments, and try to understand the problem.