[#109115] [Ruby master Misc#18891] Expand tabs in C code — "k0kubun (Takashi Kokubun)" <noreply@...>

Issue #18891 has been reported by k0kubun (Takashi Kokubun).

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[#109118] [Ruby master Bug#18893] Don't redefine memcpy(3) — "alx (Alejandro Colomar)" <noreply@...>

Issue #18893 has been reported by alx (Alejandro Colomar).

11 messages 2022/07/02

[#109152] [Ruby master Bug#18899] Inconsistent argument handling in IO#set_encoding — "javanthropus (Jeremy Bopp)" <noreply@...>

Issue #18899 has been reported by javanthropus (Jeremy Bopp).

10 messages 2022/07/06

[#109193] [Ruby master Bug#18909] ARGF.readlines reads more than current file — "JohanJosefsson (Johan Josefsson)" <noreply@...>

Issue #18909 has been reported by JohanJosefsson (Johan Josefsson).

17 messages 2022/07/13

[#109196] [Ruby master Bug#18911] Process._fork hook point is not called when Process.daemon is used — "ivoanjo (Ivo Anjo)" <noreply@...>

Issue #18911 has been reported by ivoanjo (Ivo Anjo).

9 messages 2022/07/13

[#109201] [Ruby master Bug#18912] Build failure with macOS 13 (Ventura) Beta — "hsbt (Hiroshi SHIBATA)" <noreply@...>

Issue #18912 has been reported by hsbt (Hiroshi SHIBATA).

20 messages 2022/07/14

[#109206] [Ruby master Bug#18914] Segmentation fault during Ruby test suite execution — "jprokop (Jarek Prokop)" <noreply@...>

Issue #18914 has been reported by jprokop (Jarek Prokop).

8 messages 2022/07/14

[#109207] [Ruby master Feature#18915] New error class: NotImplementedYetError or scope change for NotImplementedYet — Quintasan <noreply@...>

Issue #18915 has been reported by Quintasan (Michał Zając).

18 messages 2022/07/14

[#109260] [Ruby master Feature#18930] Officially deprecate class variables — "Eregon (Benoit Daloze)" <noreply@...>

Issue #18930 has been reported by Eregon (Benoit Daloze).

21 messages 2022/07/20

[#109314] [Ruby master Bug#18938] Backport cf7d07570f50ef9c16007019afcff11ba6500d70 — "byroot (Jean Boussier)" <noreply@...>

Issue #18938 has been reported by byroot (Jean Boussier).

8 messages 2022/07/25

[#109371] [Ruby master Feature#18949] Deprecate and remove replicate and dummy encodings — "Eregon (Benoit Daloze)" <noreply@...>

Issue #18949 has been reported by Eregon (Benoit Daloze).

35 messages 2022/07/29

[ruby-core:109396] [Ruby master Feature#18930] Officially deprecate class variables

From: "austin (Austin Ziegler)" <noreply@...>
Date: 2022-07-31 17:06:43 UTC
List: ruby-core #109396
Issue #18930 has been updated by austin (Austin Ziegler).


Eregon (Benoit Daloze) wrote in #note-15:
> Regarding @austin's example, there is Class#subclasses now which might be an easier way to do that.

Not really, because that would require some sort of runtime filter of said subclasses. The concept I was putting together is that there are some defined *ways* of doing things that are versioned. V1 uses a random generator; V2, V3, and V4 use a timestamp generator. There’s a payload that would include an integer version number and then it would be something like `Verifier[version].verify(payload)`, where `Verifier.[]` returns the class, but *only* if it’s versioned. Using `Class#subclasses` would mean that `Verifier.[]` would need to filter based on `Class#name` matching `V#{version}`. This would be runtime looping that doesn’t work with the intended performance characteristics.

> > deprecating them is just removing a tool from the programmer's toolbox
> 
> Yes, in this case I think this is good because it's a tool which is very difficult to use correctly and can easily be replaced by clearer ways like instance variables, constants, etc.

I agree that `@@vars` are *very* hard to use properly and are best deprecated with a long-term plan of removal…but I’m not as convinced that the alternative ways are *clearer*.  I’ve been using Ruby for 20 years now and *still* was a little surprised when I tried what I tried and ended up with separate hierarchies. I think that, in order to deprecate them, good documentation needs to be written on how and when to use the alternatives *instead* of class variables. (This brings up a different issue, in that "how the language works" documentation is sparse and poorly organized; where is the discussion of instance variables, class instance variables, and class variables to be found in https://docs.ruby-lang.org/en/3.1/index.html?)

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Feature #18930: Officially deprecate class variables
https://bugs.ruby-lang.org/issues/18930#change-98547

* Author: Eregon (Benoit Daloze)
* Status: Open
* Priority: Normal
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Ruby's class variables are very confusing, and it seem many people agree they should be avoided (#18927).

How about we deprecate them officially?

Concretely:
* Mention in the documentation that class variables are deprecated and should be avoided/should not be used.
* Add a parse-time deprecation warning, now that we only see those with `Warning[:deprecation] = true` it seems reasonable to add.



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