None. My wife doesn’t know about tact, or the polite white lie or anything like that. She doesn’t have time for that bullshit. It’s one of her endearing qualities.

What a crock of shit!

Why would capital willingly poison its workforce as a deliberate policy? That makes zero sense.

I can see capital writing it off as a necessary side-cost of doing business, but I can’t see it as a deliberate policy.

Again, it makes no sense. Capital wants a relatively healthy workforce, not one that’s falling apart due to lead-caused neurological decrepitude.

Cry me a river…

“There’s nothing here but war, where the murderin’ cannons roar, And I am sick and tired of this hard fighting.”

Most of what society tells us will make us feel happy and fulfilled in life is bullshit. Living a good life is primarily about your personal relationships. Things like social status and personal wealth are far less important.

What does the fox say?

you can always just call them by their first name or something else

Well I didn’t know you were called Dennis.

Ha! Just wait until you turn 50! That’s when the real fun starts. Ask me how I know.

On the flipside, while it’s true that I fucked myself up trying (and failing) to be a pro snowboarder in my 20s, it really is possibly to bounce back from injuries --so long as they aren’t too bad-- and have a good and active life in spite of them.

Sure, I’ll never be the same person I was before I trashed my body doing stupid shit when I was young reckless and stupid, but I’ve made a pretty good comeback over the years just by eating right, always exercising and staying physically fit by keeping myself in the game.

Now I’m old, in my 50s, but I’m still physically fit and in general my teenage daughter and 20-something-year-old nephews struggle to keep up with me on our hikes and backpacking and/or climbing trips.

Granted, some of it’s purely psychological, but there’s no question in my mind that some of it is also simply about having spent years as a very physically active and physically fit person.

So in other words you are unwilling to answer the question.

Got it.

This is precisely why I say that you aren’t intellectually serious people.

This is a pleasant fiction.

And your point is?

Please do share an example of industrialization that somehow doesn’t include unforseen negative health effects.

Go on now, we’ll wait.

I’m on board with defederating with them. They are basically a public nuisance at this point, filling any even remotely political post with a lot of noise in the form of memes and a toolbox of trite talking points. They downvote everyone else and upvote themselves and basically drown out any valid discussion that doesn’t toe their childish line.

Then they claim that it’s us liberals who can’t abide opposing viewpoints while simultaneously openly admitting that purging Lemmy of “right wing” opinions is the entire point of their trolling project.

I was originally inclined to be patient with them, but at this point nothing about hexbear seems like it’s done in good faith. It’s all just noise for its own sake.

I guess I will have to figure out how to block them.

I don’t think OP is thinking that far into their future. I don’t think OP has any plans for higher education either. It’s been a few decades for me, but when I was an undergrad, if your pager went off in class --cell phones weren’t really a thing yet-- most professors would ask you to leave, which was not a good thing in the small upper division classes as they were very difficult and you had to pass with a B or better to move on in my major.

It’s really quite simple; all of the wealth has gone to executives and shareholders.

Regular working people have been fucked.

Really? I had no idea. It turns out I make a lot more money than I thought.

Fair play. That said, please do look up Hanford. It’s way bigger than Westlake and is potentially a much bigger problem, though granted, Westlake is problematic as well.

Scarcely. This is the tyranny of small differences. Portland and Seattle have way more in common with one another than they do with any other big cities in the US. Sure, there are differences, but to the rest of the world they seem trivial.

It’s notable, for example, that even something so organic as Seattle’s “grunge” music scene actually had its roots in Portland with all of the proto-grunge bands, like Napalm Beach and Dead Moon that came out of Portland’s Satyricon in the 1980s.

Right, but that’s why people are talking about nuclear as a bridge technology, not as a permanent solution. Whether or not we can make it pencil out before smashing through all of the critical tipping points in global temperature averages is not something I’m qualified to have an opinion on, but I’m credibly informed that we might at least want to give it a serious look.

Oh good, let’s quibble about semantics instead of actually discussing the meat of the problem.

The problem isn’t fire, it’s that the waste at Hanford has leached into the soil and a plume of it is headed towards the Hanford Reach on the Columbia River. There’s a mitigation plan in place and it looks like it’s ultimately going to work, but it’s very expensive and not something that anyone wants to see happen again.