But why?! The USA is a paradise for women! Isn’t that what Margaret Atwood taught us!?

  • Waldelfe ( Waldelfe@feddit.org ) 
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    I have a good American friend here in Germany who has a great chance of getting a permanent status and later citizenship. She’s already pretty good at German after 2 years and was offered a permanent local contract. She told me last week she’s probably not taking the offer and going back to the US because she earns more and pays less taxes there. I asked about healthcare cost and all she talked about was how contraception was completely free in her american insurance and she has a copay here, how much less taxes she paid and she didn’t like how the German law handles paternity issues (it’s harder to get out of your obligations if your wife cheated and the kid isn’t yours).

    It was so weird. So many American women wish they were in her position and all she talked about was going back to the US due to paternity laws and the 10€ copay on her contraception which made her really angry for some reason.

    • ZDL ( ZDL@lazysoci.al ) OP
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      People be stupid, yo! I decided in 1999 I’d never again set foot on US soil because I’d rather pay higher taxes and have a sane society around me.

      And now I pay lower taxes than a USAnian and have a sane society around me.

    • BCsven ( BCsven@lemmy.ca ) 
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      Its USA brainwashing, they feel they are fighting the “enemy” by not paying tax. Even though that extra take home pay ends up going to health care, or car expenses due to lack of transit etc.

    • jjjalljs ( jjjalljs@ttrpg.network ) 
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      People are emotional creatures.

      People also don’t seem to accept that you often get something for paying taxes. Infrastructure, schools, food inspectors, whatever.

    • prole ( prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone ) 
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      she didn’t like how the German law handles paternity issues (it’s harder to get out of your obligations if your wife cheated and the kid isn’t yours).

      Major red flag for her partner lol

      • Waldelfe ( Waldelfe@feddit.org ) 
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        No, actually she worked on one of Kamala Harris’ campaigns and proudly wears the campaign tshirt. Which is why her attitude confused me so much. I’m not sure what’s going on with her other than that even a well educated American can still have a lot of indoctrination and believe the American way is always the best way.

        • ZDL ( ZDL@lazysoci.al ) OP
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          Leftist groups in China have learned not to engage with American leftist groups since the 2020 Pride fiasco in Shanghai. American groups always act as if they know better than locals what local conditions are, what local culture will or will not tolerate, and what tactics will or will not work under local conditions. The LGBT community spent decades on patient diplomacy winning all kinds of victories (like queer sex being removed from criminal law and queerness being removed as a mental disorder) for themselves. Then in 2009 they got persuaded by American LGBT groups to hold Pride events. And when that didn’t get stomped, to get more and more confrontational and strident in them.

          Until in 2020 the authorities had had enough and stomped. Hard. Undoing at least three decades of the patient diplomacy in the process.

          Now leftist groups in China do the polite “nod, smile, ignore” cycle when told by Americans how to run their affairs.

  • BCsven ( BCsven@lemmy.ca ) 
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    The irony is the Conservatives wanted women’s rights removed and have them back at home to make white babies, because they fear the mixed culture. And they may now be left with a country mostly made of men, which will obviously shrink their baby birthing plan.

    • I looked it up. Won’t post a link here, but “Fox” in the search with OP’s title and it comes right up.

      The amount of pure cope in the comments is astounding. If 40% of the young women actually did leave, they wouldn’t be so cheery about it.

    • You can get by pretty well with just English in Scandinavia, Britain, and Ireland. Many of the big cities also have a lot of English speakers.

      The easiest way to move is if you can find a job or have a lot of money to invest. Also sometimes possible to get citizenship through your family. I’d recommend hunting for jobs on LinkedIn if you’re in a specialized field, or see if there are any offices near you for a European company.

      If none of that is possible for you, I would recommend moving to a large left-wing city with good trains like NYC, Philadelphia, Portland, etc. They’ll be closer culturally to Europe, less vulnerable to fascism, and may give you more job opportunities toward Europe in the long run.

  • Nomorereddit ( Nomorereddit@lemmy.today ) 
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    Online surveys that ask women if they want to leave the United States often produce misleading results for several reasons.

    First, these surveys capture wishful thinking rather than actual plans. When people answer an online poll, they respond based on imagination rather than commitment. Saying you want to move to another country is similar to saying you want to live on a beach or work fewer hours. It reflects a fantasy, not a genuine intention.

    Second, these surveys attract people who are already dissatisfied or curious about change. This creates a self selected group that does not represent the population as a whole. If someone is bored, stressed, or daydreaming about a different lifestyle, they are more likely to click the poll.

    Third, many respondents interpret the question emotionally rather than practically. Wanting to “leave the country” can actually mean wanting a break, wanting adventure, or wanting to travel. It rarely means navigating visas, finding new jobs, learning new languages, or building a life abroad. Travel and exploration are appealing because they offer novelty without long term consequences. True immigration requires commitment that most people never make.

    Because of these factors, online polls mainly reveal a desire for change or travel rather than a real plan to emigrate. They reflect mood and curiosity, not a solid decision to leave the country.