
Today’s culprit is… Jello’s Chocolate Pudding! Oh wait, no, “pudding snacks”, whatever in the label-regulation-dodging fuck that means.
Posting here because this has quickly become a very common shrinkflation tactic where the manufacturer substitutes fructose/sucrose in their main product with the cheaper aspartame and stevia and calls it “healthy”. There is no sucrose-only version of this product anymore.
However, these shrinkflated products taste bitter, unsweetened and are completely unappetizing to me. So I end up having to look at labels very carefully (usually some thin text at the bottom of the label) to make sure they didn’t sneak in some artificial sweetener.
The strangest part is I haven’t seen or heard of anyone complaining about it, are we in the minority of people for who artificial sweeteners are bitter, like Cilantro that tastes like soap? Both me and my partner find it bitter and unappetizing in any product, but only I have the “cilantro gene”.
I did find these articles on the topic:
https://www.phillymag.com/be-well-philly/2013/08/22/study-fake-sweeteners-taste-disgusting-people/ (the source link is dead, here’s a wayback machine link: https://web.archive.org/web/20130826013630/http://www.futurity.org/top-stories/why-fake-sweeteners-can-taste-funky/)
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2012/05/120531102334.htm
Just on the pudding snacks bit. Unfortunately this is not new and is very common.
Words like pudding are highly regulated by the FDA. You can look up exactly what they mean by googling the FDA definition, they say exactly how much sugar, fat, etc needs to be in a serving.
Cheese is the one I noticed. Unless it says “cheese” - it ain’t cheese. Chee-z, cheesy, cheese-flavor, chee-tos,its,ums whatever are all highly processed cheese-flavor that could have little or no cheese in them.
You may already know that, but a shocking amount of Americans don’t
I’ve always felt these regulations was a bit toothless when companies could get away with “Chocolatey Chips” instead of “Chocolate Chips”, and the average consumer would be none the wiser to the word dance that’s going on here. But I am glad they exist at all.
Re: American Cheese, Nile Red actually made some: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0aGNAxN5Z-o
Yea, chocolatey can mean chocolate, in every day talk
“How did you get these chocolate cookies so chocolaty?”
I think they should have to go all the way down to “chocolate flavored”
“Granola bar with chocolate flavored coating”
https://lemmy.ca/post/13056164 source btw, it’s a real thing
yep, i accidently bought a box of “chocolatey” granola bars. sent a nasty email, not bought anything from them since.
Check out the new wyngz in the frozen food section!
My husband finds artificial sweeteners bitter as well, including stevia. I don’t. I wouldn’t doubt if there’s something genetic at play.
Even artificially sweetened products tend to be sickly sweet to me though. I’d love a version with less sweetener, period.
Edit: Holy misfiring autocorrect Batman
I find them bitter and way too sweet. I don’t like stevia but it’s the one not sugar sweetener I can at least tolerate.
Same here. Can’t understand how people keep telling me they taste no difference in Coke and Coke Zero. Plus it gives me diarrhea as an added bonus.
What people can’t taste the difference. If Coke Zero is cold it is bearable to drink but I can definitely taste a difference.
My husband finds artificial sweeteners bitter as well, including stevia. I don’t. I wouldn’t doubt if there’s something genetic at play.
I was just speculating about this in another comment. I’ve got one of those “bitter super-taster” genes and I definitely have the same hunch
weirdly i have never found artificial sweeteners to be bitter despite being extremely over the top sensitive to bitterness, my only issue is that companies tend to use significantly too much or not balance it out with other tastes.
But generally at this point most stuff with artificial sweetener in it is perfectly fine, after getting used to it i now find soda with actual sugar in it to taste a bit strange.
I feel exactly the same! Sugared beverages really don’t appeal much to me anymore, but yeah every commercial food product I eat could be half as sweet or even less imo.
Artificial sweetener tastes sweeter than sugar. The problem with this pudding is that they seem to have sweetened it with a potent laxative.
Coca-Cola does this same thing for years with some sort of Fanta and Sprite. It’s general now. They want you to eat and drink chemicals instead of bad food.
Aspartame is nasty to me. It has the disgusting after taste that I never liked. I never liked diet soda, and mainly drink water now. I used to be able to drink soda zero, like coke zero or whatever but they switched whatever the old sweetener was with aspartame. Probably better for my health over all, but the fact companies switched out ingredients like that has made me more cautious when buying sweet items now.
One of us!
I’m also at the point where I have to look at the ingredients before I buy sweets, otherwise it’s a pipeline from the grocery store to the food bank.
The old sweetener was Ace-K, acesulfame potassium, I’m pretty sure.
I don’t mind the taste of Aspartame, but I’ve noticed I get bad headaches when having too much foods with Aspartame, so I tend to avoid it. The occasional pop is okay, but much more is too much.
Hopefully Monk Fruit stays trendy, it’s my favourite tasting of the sugar substitutes. Splenda is okay too. Not great, not terrible,
I have noticed monk fruit in some ice creams and they taste good. I agree that I hope it stays trendy.
I’ve used the Stevia-based baking mix (it’s mostly Erithitol) and it’s very bitter if I taste some straight. But when using it in chocolate chip cookies or coffee it’s fine. I’ve also tried the Zevia pop (don’t start a political argument) and it tastes bitter there too.
Otherwise aspartame has a strong diet flavor to me.
Yeah stevia is bitter, or rather especially the aftertaste. I feel it only makes sense if what you are sweetening is bitter, like coffee/tea.
Straight erythritol isnt bitter, but it’s not as sweet as sugar and has quite a cooling effect. But I actually use straight erythritol as a near-zero calorie sprinkle on toast and oatmeal.






