• I manage many aged (been around a long time) sites. We tried CleanTalk on just TWO of them. After the trial SPAM just completely exploded. Much of it is foreign languages. None of my other sites are impacted, even though they share many crosslinks.

    The Poisson distribution makes this statistically impossible. As others have noted, I am far from alone in this experience. The SPAM is clearly not organic.

    CleanTalk, I’ve read all your replies to other reviewers with the same experience.

    I am collecting evidence.

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  • Plugin Support Aleksandrrazor

    (@aleksandrrazor)

    Hello @krunktern

    Once upon a time, there was a popular opinion that developers of antivirus programs specifically wrote viruses themselves.

    Following this logic, SEO companies should generate traffic to the site to show that their SEO is working, and Google AdWords should click on ads so that users pay more for their advertising.

    Deliberate dissemination of malicious software is itself a crime in nearly every jurisdiction worldwide; doing so in order to sell software would be an additional offense.

    Sending spam is a criminal offense, and you can easily contact law enforcement agencies and provide them with spammer data, such as IP/email addresses, so they can identify the owners of spam servers. Not a single reputable company will seriously violate the rules, much less the laws.

    Thread Starter krunktern

    (@krunktern)

    Out of the only 6 reviews you have left here, TWO are for CleanTalk. In fact you joined specifically in order to leave a review for CleanTalk. You have left an inordinate number of responses to those claiming the same as I have, often using a sock account to do so.

    One might read your reply as someone who was just profoundly naive, but that’s not the reason you’re responding with your boilerplate text. Rather, you’re an employee of CleanTalk. You should not be permitted to reply to CleanTalk posts here without disclosing that in your replies.

    https://x.com/AleksandrRazoR

    Please be advised to meticulously retain and preserve any and all communications, correspondences, and interactions associated with CleanTalk that have transpired within and without the confines of this forum. Such preservation is instrumental in facilitating an exhaustive investigation, which may encompass both criminal and civil inquiries, aimed at ascertaining the veracity and legality of the implicated activities.

    We hereby convey our intent to employ all requisite legal mechanisms, including but not limited to, the issuance of subpoenas, to ensure a thorough and objective evaluation of the prevailing circumstances.

    Kindly consider this communication as a formal advisement to govern yourself in a manner consistent with the prevailing legal standards and ethical norms, in anticipation of prospective legal proceedings.

    Plugin Support Aleksandrrazor

    (@aleksandrrazor)

    Hello @krunktern

    Of course, I am one of CleanTalk’s employees, and responding to the topics of our plugin means maintaining communication with our users and helping them resolve issues. Every plugin author responds to their customers if they take their work seriously.
    This can be seen from my profile, which indicates that my homepage is cleantalk.org and my account has existed since February 4th, 2013.
    https://wordpress.org/support/users/aleksandrrazor/
    My colleagues and I have been developing our anti-spam service for over 10 years.

    Can you tell us how exactly you define spam and see that it has increased?
    We do not know how spammers work or how websites end up in their databases for spam distribution. I can only assume that a website can end up in a larger number of spam databases based on certain parameters. Even a new website that is closed for indexing and has no links to it will eventually start receiving traffic from various bots.

    This is indeed a serious conversation.

    From where i stand, It’s hard to judge the level of sincerity of both parties.

    As a user looking to protect emails on a site i end up confused. I tried to use basic encoding protections but the end user is impacted as the mailto: links cant be opened on mobile browsers. Which makes the mail contact link useless.

    Then i end up on this conversation and obviously i dont want to take the chance to put at risk my emails. Those accusations are pretty serious. The conversation is not very old, i’ll be following the subject. It would be interesting to have proofs of the spam augmentation on those 2 test sites.

    For now, I’m counting on reCaptcha and Rackspace levels of security and just hope for the best….

    Thank you / Cheers / All the best

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