Thread Starter
Harm10
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Is this the right way to ask these kind of things?
Hi Harm10, sorry for delay…
You can go in Newsletters → Settings → tab Batch sending and modify the max number per batch, nut not the minimum.
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This reply was modified 5 years, 5 months ago by
eventualo.
Thread Starter
Harm10
(@harm10)
Thanks for answering…..
I know this setting that is why I wanted to submit a feature request.
If your batch is not that big and you know what amount your provider allows you can set it.
Otherwise the plug-in is sending only one or two mails per time unit.
So is this the right place to ask for such a feature? Or do I need to register it elsewhere?
I understand your point but the settings of batch routine are made to have an easy and safe setup.
I think there is no need for a minimum number per batch: the plugin tries always to send the max number of emails per batch, according with your settings.
If you like to send more emails per batch, you can increase a bit the number of max emails per day, so you can “boost” each batch.
Thread Starter
Harm10
(@harm10)
I have to look back at my results first time (a while ago) but I seem to remember that the plug-in decides what number to use on sending in each batch looking at the total amount of mails to send. So it does not use the maximum but does some interpreting of its own.
In my case the batches contained of 1 or 2 mails while more than 100 needed to be sent in total.
Having such a minimum could influence that.
Sounds familiar this interpretation on batch size?
In general it’s not safe to set more than 25-30 emails per batch (e.g. timeout risk during execution).
Here there is an explanation about batch sending: https://www.eventualo.net/blog/wp-alo-easymail-newsletter-faq/#faq-8
You should set an external cron that surely trigger a batch every 5 minutes.
What is your cut-off of emails you can send per day? Because if you like to send 100 emails per batch (every 5 minutes) you need to set a daily limit at least of 28800:
(100 emails per batch) * (12 batches per hour) * (24 hours) = 28800 emails per day
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This reply was modified 5 years, 5 months ago by eventualo.
Thread Starter
Harm10
(@harm10)
I am not advocating huge numbers of mails each day.
My provider currently sets a limit of 500 mails per day.
I have set the maximum to 25.
My client creates 1 newsletter a month which is sent to about 250 receivers.
This takes forever as you cannot set a minimum batch size.
I cannot remember the code file where the calculation is done but having an option to set the MINIMUM size of the batch to for example 10 will speed up the process hugely!
Obviously this minimum should always be lower than the set maximum……….
The plugin doesn’t count how many emails are has been sent out in the current day. It makes the calculation: the maximum emails per day are X, so for each batch it can send out Y emails, where Y is: X / 24 (hours) / 12 (batches per hour).
If you can set a minimum, there will be the risk to exceed the daily limit.
But for your client, if he/she really send only a newsletter per month to 250 recipients, you can increase the daily limit in plugin options. Because the max recipients are always 250.
So you can set 7000 emails per day, so: 7000 / 24 / 12 = 24.3 per batch.
Anyway, the real problem is the low daily limit by your provider. You should ask to increase it or use an external SMTP service.
I hope it helps.
Thread Starter
Harm10
(@harm10)
I am happy that you try to explain it all!
But I really do not understand why a feature request to set a minimum batch next to the maximum batch amount is that hard to grasp. To me this seems too futile to have to explain.
I also feel users of your plug-in will better understand what will happen in a mail batch then you now explain.
I also do not see the risk in having such an option but maybe I am mistaken?
Sure, I have the option to raise the amount of mails per day but why should I request that if my client only sends a few hundred per month? That seems counter intuitive.
This plugin works in this way to respect the daily limit: it doesn’t count the emails when going out and stops when reaches the limit, but it makes a calculation to send the right number of emails per batch in order to stay under the limit.
In this way it’s not possible to set a minimum emails per batch.
In my previous comment there is the formula and some samples of calculation.
In your case your daily limit is too low and you can send only about 1 email per batch: 500 / 24 / 12 = 1.7 email
You should ask your provider to increase it or use an external SMTP service, or you can try another plugin that uses different configuration, including minimum emails per batch.
Thread Starter
Harm10
(@harm10)
It is clear we do not agree (and that is your good right!). So let us stop discussing this…..
It was important to have this explanation thread, thanks.
