[Uri-review] Re: draft-lemieux-doi-uri-scheme-03 independent submission

Timothy Mcsweeney <tim@dropnumber.com> Fri, 31 May 2024 18:02 UTC

Date: Fri, 31 May 2024 14:02:06 -0400
From: Timothy Mcsweeney <tim@dropnumber.com>
To: Pierre-Anthony Lemieux <pal@sandflow.com>
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Subject: [Uri-review] Re: draft-lemieux-doi-uri-scheme-03 independent submission
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Pierre-Anthony, 

I was really just insinuating that based on my personal experience, Graham Klyne and Elliot Lear shouldn't be trusted.  But past that, because you are going from a provisional to a permanent uri registration, the last paragraph in section 7.3 of RFC 7595 says your registration has to "be requested and approved in the same manner as a new 'permanent' registration." which points you to section 7.2 of RFC 7595.  And then that template found in 7.4 which you are supposed to supply here or in the IANA considerations that are not yet in your I-D becomes an IETF contribution and your copyrights disappear I've been told.

> On 05/31/2024 11:45 AM EDT Pierre-Anthony Lemieux <pal@sandflow.com> wrote:
> 
>  
> Hi Timothy,
> 
> Thanks for the feedback.
> 
> You are suggesting taking the Independent Submission route, and
> falling back to DOIF hosting the specification of the "doi" scheme if
> roadblocks are hit, right?
> 
> I kinda like the idea of a persistent informational RFC, but DOIF will
> be happy to host the spec as well.
> 
> Best,
> 
> -- Pierre
> 
> On Fri, May 31, 2024 at 5:27 AM Timothy Mcsweeney <tim@dropnumber.com> wrote:
> >
> > Hi Pierre-Anthony
> >
> > Also from section 7.1 of RFC 7595
> > >>"Nothing in the procedure empowers the Designated Expert to override properly arrived-at IETF or working group consensus."
> >
> > So, if things don't go well with the Desginated Expert (which in my experience they wont) you have another route.
> > And there is only ONE designated expert for RFC 7595 which is Graham Klyne.
> > Furthermore, the Independent Submissions Editor (Elliot Lear) can deny to publish any submission for any reason (ask me how I know).
> >
> >
> >
> >

[Uri-review] Re: draft-lemieux-doi-uri-scheme-03 … Timothy Mcsweeney
[Uri-review] Re: draft-lemieux-doi-uri-scheme-03 … Independent Submissions Editor (Eliot Lear)
[Uri-review] Re: draft-lemieux-doi-uri-scheme-03 … Independent Submissions Editor (Eliot Lear)
[Uri-review] Re: draft-lemieux-doi-uri-scheme-03 … Pierre-Anthony Lemieux
[Uri-review] Re: draft-lemieux-doi-uri-scheme-03 … Timothy Mcsweeney