• kleeon [he/him, he/him]
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    5 days ago

    An imperfect vessel is still a tool of God when put to purpose

    Which God do these people worship?

    • darkcalling [comrade/them, she/her]
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      4 days ago

      Yahweh, a pretty evil ancient war god that later inflated itself to be the only god and all powerful and the center of the Christian religion.

      The same Yahweh that told its chosen people after giving them victory to take the women and girls for themselves for their use but kill all the men in one passage. The same that says if a woman does not cry out removed then it's not really removed and she can and must be married to her removed as she has been spoiled and the man must pay her father money. The same that probably impregnated a teenage girl under the age of 17 in Mary (hard to know her age but the original wording in the original languages suggests either virgin and/or young woman of certainly less than 18).

      Or have you not been paying attention to the abuse of his church the RCC? Or of the abuses much less documented due to no centralized authority and cataloguing that happen in protestant churches all the time with girls forced to apologize to and forgive adult men for "tempting" the men into sin and then to forgive the men without any police.

      • BeanisBrain [he/him, they/them]
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        4 days ago

        Reminder that Lot

        CW: Misogyny, SA

        offers his daughters up to a mob to be gang SVed

        and is afterward spared the destruction that befalls Sodom on the basis of being a righteous and godly man. I have no trouble believing that the God of the Bible would be completely on board with Epstein shit.

        • XiaCobolt [she/her]
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          4 days ago

          I'm not religious but the moral of that story is about guest protections, that if you welcome someone into your home their wellbeing comes before your own and that of your family.

          But yeah I don't see him offering himself, plus women being essentially property and being able to consent to his decison make it a shitty story.

          • ComradeRat [he/him, they/them]
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            4 days ago

            Yeah, I also dont rly see Lot and family as being saved bc he's righteous or godly but bc he is Abram's brother. If anything, the fact that his wife disobeys the angels and lot whines to be allowed to go to another town instead of the mountains makes me think we're supposed to feel ambiguously towards them at best (it was only very late in the 2nd temple period that all the characters in the bible got reinterpretated as exemplars of moral behaviour or pure evil)

            • BeanisBrain [he/him, they/them]
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              2 days ago

              Yeah, I also dont rly see Lot and family as being saved bc he's righteous or godly but bc he is Abram's brother.

              That raises another question: is nepotism good because God does it, or does God do nepotism because it's good?