IPv6 Neighbor Discovery Prefix Registration
draft-ietf-6lo-prefix-registration-18
Yes
Éric Vyncke
No Objection
Deb Cooley
Erik Kline
Jim Guichard
Mahesh Jethanandani
Orie Steele
Note: This ballot was opened for revision 10 and is now closed.
Éric Vyncke
Yes
Andy Newton
No Objection
Comment
(2025-06-04 for -12)
Not sent
# Andy Newton, ART AD, comments for draft-ietf-6lo-prefix-registration-12 CC @anewton1998 * line numbers: - https://author-tools.ietf.org/api/idnits?url=https://www.ietf.org/archive/id/draft-ietf-6lo-prefix-registration-12.txt&submitcheck=True * comment syntax: - https://github.com/mnot/ietf-comments/blob/main/format.md * "Handling Ballot Positions": - https://ietf.org/about/groups/iesg/statements/handling-ballot-positions/ I have no objection to the public of this document as an RFC.
Deb Cooley
No Objection
Erik Kline
(was Abstain)
No Objection
Gunter Van de Velde
No Objection
Comment
(2025-06-04 for -12)
Sent
# Gunter Van de Velde, RTG AD, comments for draft-ietf-6lo-prefix-registration-12 # The line numbers used are rendered from IETF idnits tool: https://author-tools.ietf.org/api/idnits?url=https://www.ietf.org/archive/id/draft-ietf-6lo-prefix-registration-12.txt # Many thanks for this write up. It is a non-trivial update touching many parts in various specifications. It represents a significant amount of detailed work. # when running idnits there disclaimer message is observed. I didn't see this addressed in the shepherd writeup. " -- The document seems to lack a disclaimer for pre-RFC5378 work, but may have content which was first submitted before 10 November 2008. If you have contacted all the original authors and they are all willing to grant the BCP78 rights to the IETF Trust, then this is fine, and you can ignore this comment. If not, you may need to add the pre-RFC5378 disclaimer. (See the Legal Provisions document at https://trustee.ietf.org/license-info for more information.) " # section 4 suggests amending RFC4861, section 5 suggest extending RFC7400. But section 6 describes "Updating RFC6550". How is Updating any different from ammending or extending? Maybe that should be clarified in the section where amending/Extending is described? (note that other sections use Updating keyword) # the text uses often the "*" to make a keyword appear *bold* in markdown. When reading that in text only it reads odd. Is that the intent? many tables are exposed to this idnit # Detailed Review # =============== 234 *Amends/Amended by:* This tag pair is used with an amending RFC that 235 changes the amended RFC. This could include bug fixes, 236 behavior changes etc. This is intended to specify mandatory 237 changes to the protocol. The goal of this tag pair is to 238 signal to anyone looking to implement the amended RFC that 239 they MUST also implement the amending RFC. 240 *Extends/Extended by:* This tag pair is used with an extending RFC 241 that defines an optional addition to the extended RFC. This 242 can be used by documents that use existing extension points or 243 clarifications that do not change existing protocol behavior. 244 This signals to implementers and protocol designers that there 245 are changes to the extended RFC that they need to consider but 246 not necessarily implement. GV> I found this not easy to fully understand. I tried to reword this. Does this reworked definition work for you? " Amends / Amended by: This tag pair is used when an RFC formally modifies the protocol behavior defined in another RFC. Such modifications may include corrections, updates to normative behavior, or other substantive changes. The presence of this tag pair indicates that the amending RFC introduces mandatory changes to the amended RFC. Implementers of the amended RFC MUST also implement the corresponding changes described in the amending RFC. Extends / Extended by: This tag pair is used when an RFC introduces an optional extension or clarification to another RFC, without altering its existing normative behavior. Such extensions may utilize defined extension points or provide additional informational content. The presence of this tag pair indicates that there are supplementary specifications or enhancements to consider. Implementation of the extending RFC is OPTIONAL, but protocol designers and implementers SHOULD be aware of its existence when working with the extended RFC. " 302 SND: Subnet Neighbor Discovery (protocol) GV> idnit observation. The other entries in this list have "*" to make the keyword bold, but this SND keyword does accidently not have this 324 otherwise therein, the behavior of the 6LBR that acts as RPL Root, of GV> The "6LBR" seems forgotten within the terminology list 473 [RFC9685] defines a 2-bits P-Field with values from 0 to 2, and 474 reserves value 3. This specification defines value 3 for the 475 P-Field, and uses it to signal that the Registered Address is a 476 prefix. When the P-Field is set to 3, the receiver installs a route 477 to the prefix via the sender's address used as source address in the 478 NS(EARO) registration message. 479 480 This specification assigns the value of 3, resulting in the complete 481 table as follows: GV> What about the following? (i sneaked in a normative MUST): " [RFC9685] defines a 2-bit P-Field with values 0 through 2 and reserves the value 3 for future use. This specification defines the semantics of P-Field value 3. When the P-Field is set to 3, it indicates that the Registered Address represents a prefix rather than a single address. Upon receiving an NS(EARO) message with the P-Field set to 3, the receiver MUST install a route to the indicated prefix via the source address of the NS(EARO) message. This specification assigns the value 3 to the P-Field, resulting in the following complete set of defined values: " 548 New and updated Option Fields: 549 550 *F:* 1-bit flag; set to 1 to indicate that the sender expects other 551 routers to forward packets to self when the packets are sourced 552 within the registered prefix. 553 554 *Prefix Length:* 7-bit integer; this field contains a prefix length 555 expressed in bits if the P-Field is set to 3 and the EARO is 556 placed in an NS message. In that case the value MUST be between 557 16 and 120, both included. The field contains a Status if the 558 EARO is placed in an NA message regardless of the setting of the P 559 flag. In all other cases it is reserved, so it MUST be set to 0 560 by the sender and ignored by the receiver. 561 562 *r (reserved):* 1-bit reserved field; it MUST be set to zero by the 563 sender and MUST be ignored by the receiver. GV> What about: " New and Updated Option Fields F (Forwarding Flag): A 1-bit flag. When set to 1, it indicates that the sender expects other routers to forward packets to the sender when those packets are sourced from within the registered prefix. Prefix Length: A 7-bit unsigned integer. When the P-Field is set to 3 and the EARO is included in a Neighbor Solicitation (NS) message, this field MUST contain a prefix length expressed in bits, with a value between 16 and 120 inclusive. When the EARO is included in a Neighbor Advertisement (NA) message, this field MUST carry a Status value, regardless of the setting of the P-Field. In all other cases, this field is reserved; it MUST be set to zero by the sender and MUST be ignored by the receiver. r (Reserved): A 1-bit reserved field. It MUST be set to zero by the sender and MUST be ignored by the receiver. " 598 New and updated Option Fields: 589 600 *Reserved:* 6-bit field; reserved, MUST be set to 0 and ignored by 601 the receiver 602 603 *Prefix:* 15 bytes field; carries up to 120 bits of prefix, and MUST 604 be padded with zeros. The padding MUST be overwritten with zeros 605 when the prefix is being used by the receiver. 606 607 *r:* 1-bit field; reserved, MUST be set to 0 and ignored by the 608 receiver 609 610 *Prefix Length:* 7-bit integer; signals the length of the prefix, in 611 bits. The value MUST be at least 16 and at most 120. GV> What about: " New and Updated Option Fields Reserved: A 6-bit field reserved for future use. It MUST be set to zero by the sender and MUST be ignored by the receiver. Prefix: A 15-byte field that carries up to 120 bits of the prefix. If the prefix is shorter than 120 bits, the remaining bits MUST be padded with zeros. The receiver MUST treat the padding as zeroed and MUST overwrite any unused bits with zeros before using the prefix. r (Reserved): A 1-bit field reserved for future use. It MUST be set to zero by the sender and MUST be ignored by the receiver. Prefix Length: A 7-bit unsigned integer indicating the length of the prefix in bits. The value MUST be in the inclusive range of 16 to 120. " Many thanks for this document, Gunter Van de Velde, Routing AD
Jim Guichard
No Objection
Ketan Talaulikar
(was Discuss)
No Objection
Comment
(2025-06-09 for -13)
Sent
Thanks to the author and the WG for this very useful extension for Prefix Discovery in 6LoWPAN. Thanks for the discussion and making the changes. I am clearing my DISCUSS position. I will let the INT ADs review the current set of RFCs listed on the "updates" metadata for their correctness. They seem OK to me.
Mahesh Jethanandani
No Objection
Mike Bishop
No Objection
Comment
(2025-06-04 for -12)
Sent
This document is very dense, and I can tell that you've made efforts to connect it to the context of existing documents in this space. Thank you for that investment. I have a few comments that I hope will help improve the document; they can be incorporated at the editor's and the responsible AD's discretion. In Section 2.1, there is no Extends or Amends "tag" per se. I think it's fine to define the terms as you're using them for precision in this document, but draft-kuehlewind-update-tag has been replaced and its replacement expired without being adopted by RSWG. It has no formal standing at this point. In Section 2.2, there's already a References section at the end of the document. Consider instead specifying what terminology you're importing from each document. In Section 3, the second sentence is difficult to parse due to the descriptive clauses for each item in your list. Consider breaking this up into multiple sentences or using a bulleted list to isolate the elements. In Section 7.3, there is an inconsistency between "less than 120 bits long" and "up to 120 bits" / "at most 120". I suspect the first intends to say "at most 120 bits long." It might be worth mentioning earlier in the document that this design excludes support for prefixes longer than 120 bits. That's almost certainly a reasonable restriction, but discovering it in the encoding rules of the message is sub-optimal. In Section 12.1, is there a citation for "brown field use case"? Is this phrase needed, or could this sentence begin with "A mix of devices that support any or all of..." ===NITS FOLLOW=== Abstract, "allows to request" => "allows the node to request" or "allows requesting" Section 1, paragraph 3 has odd spacing. Please check whether you have extraneous whitespace or nbsp characters in your input that might be causing this. Section 3, "that it participates to" => "that it participates in" or "in which it participates"; "enables to decouple" => "enables decoupling"; "to stimulate the" => "to request" Section 7.2, Should "The Status field that is used only when the EARO is placed in an NA message." be "The Status field is used only when the EARO is placed in an NA message."? Section 7.4, "similar as" => "similar to that"; "it is of" => "it is"
Mohamed Boucadair
(was Discuss)
No Objection
Comment
(2025-06-04 for -12)
Sent
Hi Pascal, Thanks for the the discussion and for taking care of most of the points in [1]. The pending point about I-flag will be discussed as part of my draft-ietf-6lo-updating-rfc-8928 ballot [2]. Cheers, Med [1] https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/6lo/A8K5rsUHTcQvqgwS7KbeCjDUJdM/ [1] https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/6lo/YHNtP6qllKSuJg3FtVgcUF8lWkI/
Orie Steele
No Objection
Paul Wouters
(was Discuss)
No Objection
Comment
(2025-06-13 for -13)
Sent
Thanks for addressing my concerns and explaining the choice of bits. I have updated my ballot to No Objection.
Roman Danyliw
(was Discuss)
No Objection
Comment
(2025-07-01 for -13)
Sent
Thank you to Dan Romascanu for the GENART review. Thank you for addressing my DISCUSS and COMMENT feedback.