Join me in the biggest mining pool boycott Bitcoin has ever seen

[rjk]

The next massive DDOS attack (and it will happen) use that to convince people to try out p2pool.

Insider knowledge? Just kidding as usual

[slush]

The next massive DDOS attack (and it will happen) use that to convince people to try out p2poolmining over Tor.

...which have almost the same DDoS resistancy, still provide low variance mining, is easier to setup and chainless (you don't need to run bitcoind on miners and have them well connected).

[Raize]

I think many of you are unfairly targeting Tycho in this. I recommended he make some comments, but it's probably best if I make them here in his defense, myself.

Due to Deepbit's size, they really are at the mercy of the other miners and pools. If they support P2SH, and enough miners do not, their miners will be operating on a blockchain that is not democratic enough and prone to double-spends. If they do not support P2SH, and enough miners do, their miners will be operating on a blockchain that is not democratic enough and prone to double-spends. The decision has to lie with the rest of the pool, because any decision Tycho makes risks forking it.

I'd like to mention that I, personally, do not appreciate Tycho being put into this position, because this is asking him to represent the Deepbit miners as a whole, many of which may have a multitude of opinions, and the vast majority of which probably do not even specifically care either way, they just want to mine Bitcoin.

If future development decisions are going to be brought to the public for voting at the behest of any one developer, such as this one has, I would recommend Tycho ALWAYS cast his pool in favor of whichever developer makes the most effort to keep the issue OUT of the public sphere. I don't know who is to blame for this in this case, but developer hubris needs to be punished by miners and the Bitcoin public, not rewarded.

TL;DR - Deepbit is too big to weigh in on this issue individually and risk forking the chain. I'm also not happy this issue is public enough now that Tycho is obligated to address it.

Final note: I mine at a number of places, but Deepbit is not one of them.

[PatrickHarnett]

Read that - mix of sigh and lol.

I mine at deepbit, don't belong to a team (can't see any point - this isn't boinc) and I don't particularly care about the mining programs or squeezing every last bit cent from my GPUs or software.  Last time I went to the deepbit site I didn't care to look at any voting stuff (if there is any) - but it tells me my hash speed and earnings.

[Hexadecibel]

I mine at deepbit, don't belong to a team (can't see any point - this isn't boinc) and I don't particularly care about the mining programs or squeezing every last bit cent from my GPUs or software. Last time I went to the deepbit site I didn't care to look at any voting stuff (if there is any) - but it tells me my hash speed and earnings.

Perhaps you should take more interest in these issues then. The health of this decentralized network is important, and indeed it will affect you.

[PatrickHarnett]

I mine at deepbit, don't belong to a team (can't see any point - this isn't boinc) and I don't particularly care about the mining programs or squeezing every last bit cent from my GPUs or software. Last time I went to the deepbit site I didn't care to look at any voting stuff (if there is any) - but it tells me my hash speed and earnings.

Perhaps you should take more interest in these issues then. The health of this decentralized network is important, and indeed it will affect you.

I have actually read a great deal on this issue, both the BIP changes, the issues the dev team is having, and the issue of centralisation.  Yes it will affect me while I am using bitcoin actively, but the detail and materiality may not.

I also find it unusual to receive pm's telling me I shouldn't mine on Deepbit, and the degree of "evil" associated with it.

So, I am at a pool that has 30% (it was higher), it meets my needs, and has someone who has a service that has attracted a lot of business.  However, there might be more centralisation in the dev team, but people are not dismantling that with such gusto.

[Fiyasko]

what the F**K is p2sh...
Im using P2Pool
And im using Deepbit.

Leave me alone im being a goodboy, I shall bake bread for your flame war, And then make one side pay more than the other for it.

[AniceInovation]

Two points i think are crucial:

1) Gavin and the other devs should and will come to an agreement. No one else should stick their nose on that.
2) All pool admins will support what they decide.

The first point assumes that they, over all the others conoiceurs, have weighted pros and cons of each implementation, and decided on a solution. They have proven until today that they do the best they can, and everyone should support them, for the better and the worst.
The second point is, i assume and always assumed the main pool admins do what the developers decide.

As long as those are true, i see no point for the alarmist.